Bug 35555 - New default drawing color inconsistent with icons (regression 3.3->3.4)
Summary: New default drawing color inconsistent with icons (regression 3.3->3.4)
Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Draw (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
3.4.0 release
Hardware: All All
: medium major
Assignee: Not Assigned
URL:
Whiteboard: color_handling
Keywords: difficultyBeginner, easyHack, regression, skillScript
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2011-03-22 11:50 UTC by Petr Mladek
Modified: 2016-04-23 23:29 UTC (History)
8 users (show)

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Screenshot showing the problem. (82.23 KB, image/png)
2011-03-23 07:21 UTC, Petr Mladek
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Description Petr Mladek 2011-03-22 11:50:06 UTC
I have tested my 1st LO-3.4 build of today's git master. I see there that the new default color for drawings is more green. It is fine with the Tango icon theme but it does not look well with the Oxygen or Galaxy icon themes. The icons color is a pure blue.

See the attached screenshot.
Comment 1 Petr Mladek 2011-03-22 11:51:29 UTC
Christoph, Kendy, what do you think about it?
Comment 2 Christoph 2011-03-22 14:42:18 UTC
Hi Petr, I seem to miss the screenshot. Since I don't have access to the master build, could you please re-upload it?

I didn't knew about the different color for the drawings, but here are some general remarks (for the record) what was wrong with the one introduced in OOo:

1. The color has to match one of the default color palette, otherwise the default graphics items have no color name but "[]" --> very ugly from the user's point-of-view

2. The color coding is replicated in the icons of some icon sets (e.g. Galaxy icons --> blue --> drawing object). The Tango icons (as far as I know) miss such coding.
Comment 3 Petr Mladek 2011-03-23 07:21:39 UTC
Created attachment 44755 [details]
Screenshot showing the problem.
Comment 4 Christoph 2011-03-24 15:06:40 UTC
Thanks Petr! Very good catch; it looks strange, since this color is new in the palette and "breaks" the "Color 1 ... 8" structure we had. The original color has been "Blue 8"

Personally, I don't have a good recommendation, both options: a) changing back to "Blue 8", or b) keeping "Blue 9" have it pros/cons. If there is a technical rationale, please decide ...

I'd like to forward it to the Design list. If we have finalized the current branding improvements within the Design team, we can propose a new default color. This would be a sufficient reason for a change.

@Petr: Is there a sane way to add a keyword like "VisualDesign" or "Design/UX" to this bug? (Sorry, until now I only used pre-defined keywords.)
Comment 5 Christoph 2011-03-24 15:17:02 UTC
Hi Petr, sorry ... couldn't sleep :-) It seems that this change be related to a recent inclusion of OOo stuff.

Here is a recent specification (look for "Default color of drawing objects") that defines "Blue 9":
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Specification_BetterDefaults_BulletsColorsShortcuts#Detailed_Specification
Comment 6 Petr Mladek 2011-03-25 08:28:00 UTC
(In reply to comment #4)
> Personally, I don't have a good recommendation, both options: a) changing back
> to "Blue 8", or b) keeping "Blue 9" have it pros/cons. If there is a technical
> rationale, please decide ...

I think that it will be much easier to change the color than the icons. I am not aware about any other technical rationale.
 
> I'd like to forward it to the Design list. If we have finalized the current
> branding improvements within the Design team, we can propose a new default
> color. This would be a sufficient reason for a change.

sounds great

> @Petr: Is there a sane way to add a keyword like "VisualDesign" or "Design/UX"
> to this bug? (Sorry, until now I only used pre-defined keywords.)

I guess that only freedesktop administrators could do it. The easiest way might be to open a new bug against the product "freedesktop.org", component "bugzilla" and ask for it. Alternatively, you might ask Michael Meeks or Jan Holesovsky (kendy). They are in contact with admins.
Comment 7 Petr Mladek 2011-03-25 08:32:43 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)
> Here is a recent specification (look for "Default color of drawing objects")
> that defines "Blue 9":
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Specification_BetterDefaults_BulletsColorsShortcuts#Detailed_Specification

Nice catch. I do not see any explanation why the new color is better. I feel that it might be more decent/elegant but it looks strange together with the icons.
Comment 8 clio 2011-03-26 14:04:53 UTC
What about adding green 9 (and maybe more 9th colors?). (pastel colors are very suitable for color printing)
Comment 9 Bernhard Dippold 2011-05-31 15:03:41 UTC
added myself to CC
Comment 10 Björn Michaelsen 2011-11-22 06:25:30 UTC
EasyHackified this. As this is mostly about configuration setup, fortunately no deep code knowledge is needed for starters.

Unassigning and CC'ing myself.
Comment 11 Björn Michaelsen 2011-12-23 11:51:41 UTC
[This is an automated message.]
This bug was filed before the changes to Bugzilla on 2011-10-16. Thus it
started right out as NEW without ever being explicitly confirmed. The bug is
changed to state NEEDINFO for this reason. To move this bug from NEEDINFO back
to NEW please check if the bug still persists with the 3.5.0 beta1 or beta2 prereleases.
Details on how to test the 3.5.0 beta1 can be found at:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugHunting_Session_3.5.0.-1

more detail on this bulk operation: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/RFC-Operation-Spamzilla-tp3607474p3607474.html
Comment 12 Björn Michaelsen 2011-12-23 12:57:02 UTC
An EasyHack should have been checked by developers and thus is confirmed regardless of age. Moving back to NEW from NEEDINFO again. Sorry for the hassle.
Comment 13 Stéphane Aulery 2012-08-11 01:29:01 UTC
Deteted "Easyhack" from summary
Comment 14 Samuel Mehrbrodt (allotropia) 2013-10-01 21:31:10 UTC
The color has changed in the current Master version.
Please reopen if this bug is still valid.
Comment 15 Robinson Tryon (qubit) 2015-12-15 23:19:05 UTC
Migrating Whiteboard tags to Keywords: (EasyHack DifficultyBeginner SkillScript )
[NinjaEdit]
Comment 16 Jean-Baptiste Faure 2016-04-23 23:29:41 UTC
The affected version was specified in the bug description.