Bug 17698 - [915G SDVO-TV] SCART output failure
Summary: [915G SDVO-TV] SCART output failure
Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME
Alias: None
Product: xorg
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Driver/intel (show other bugs)
Version: 7.3 (2007.09)
Hardware: Other All
: medium normal
Assignee: MaLing
QA Contact: Xorg Project Team
URL:
Whiteboard:
Keywords: NEEDINFO
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2008-09-21 11:41 UTC by Frank Thieme
Modified: 2009-05-10 01:11 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

See Also:
i915 platform:
i915 features:


Attachments
i810 Xorg.0.log (57.23 KB, text/x-log)
2008-09-21 11:42 UTC, Frank Thieme
no flags Details
intel Xorg.0.log (31.35 KB, text/plain)
2008-09-21 11:43 UTC, Frank Thieme
no flags Details
xorg.conf (2.98 KB, text/plain)
2008-09-21 11:44 UTC, Frank Thieme
no flags Details
output of 'lspci -vvv' (11.10 KB, text/plain)
2008-09-21 11:44 UTC, Frank Thieme
no flags Details
intel 2.4.2 Xorg.0.log (11.35 KB, text/plain)
2008-09-22 04:34 UTC, Frank Thieme
no flags Details
intel 2.6.0 Xorg.0.log (23.38 KB, text/plain)
2009-01-18 11:55 UTC, Frank Thieme
no flags Details
log with ForceSDVODetect (75.43 KB, text/plain)
2009-02-02 10:27 UTC, Frank Thieme
no flags Details
please try the patch on your machine, thanks. (1.27 KB, patch)
2009-02-13 22:41 UTC, MaLing
no flags Details | Splinter Review
intel 2.7.0 Xorg.0.log (83.14 KB, text/x-log)
2009-04-27 06:43 UTC, Frank Thieme
no flags Details

Description Frank Thieme 2008-09-21 11:41:45 UTC
I stumbled upon a problem what I have seen on several places on the internet. But somehow noone seems to file the bug report.

There is a machine called Scaleo E of Fujitsu Siemens Computers. This machine has an on board 915G and a pci express card with a DVI-D and a SCART connector on it. As far as I read on the internet this card is just an additional output for the on board graphics (?)

I installed debian Etch, using the older i810 server. That works fine and in the Xorg.0.log there is a output TV and all seems to work. (except actually mythtv TV output, but thats an other issue).

So I updated to debian Lenny and now there is xorg 7.3+16, intel 2.3.2-2+lenny4
If I start Xorg now the TV isn't right in sync. The picture is just flickering and rolling diagonal and you can't actually use it somehow. In Xorg.0.log the connectors are detected as VGA (I suspect the onboard output), TMDS-1 and VGA-2, weras VGA-2 is connected. But this VGA-2 should be a TV.

I played around a bit with Modlines with no real success. But I reinstalled Etch to file this bug report.
Comment 1 Frank Thieme 2008-09-21 11:42:35 UTC
Created attachment 19070 [details]
i810 Xorg.0.log
Comment 2 Frank Thieme 2008-09-21 11:43:21 UTC
Created attachment 19071 [details]
intel Xorg.0.log
Comment 3 Frank Thieme 2008-09-21 11:44:02 UTC
Created attachment 19072 [details]
xorg.conf
Comment 4 Frank Thieme 2008-09-21 11:44:40 UTC
Created attachment 19073 [details]
output of 'lspci -vvv'
Comment 5 Gordon Jin 2008-09-21 18:49:37 UTC
"pci express card" should be SDVO card. And it's a known issue that SDVO TV not supported. See bug#9992.

But I'm not sure if VGA-2 detection is expected. I'll let Zhenyu to decide if this is just dup with bug#9992.
Comment 6 Wang Zhenyu 2008-09-21 23:03:30 UTC
"VGA-2" normally means SDVO-VGA, that's VGA port on SDVO card.

yeah, this is another SDVO TV support issue. Frank, which output do you see this issue? scart or svideo? Does other outputs VGA/DVI work?

For SDVO TV support, you'd better to try 2.4.2 driver or latest git master, which does have some support for it. 2.3.2 is not expected to work well with this.
Comment 7 Frank Thieme 2008-09-22 04:33:31 UTC
I wonder why it worked with i810 driver as there was no SDVO support AFAIK...

It is a SCART output directly connected to the SDVO card.

I just tried 2.4.2 (debian experimental) but the result is even worse. The Xserver crashed leaving a screen with read flickering patterns.

I attach the Xorg.0.log
Comment 8 Frank Thieme 2008-09-22 04:34:28 UTC
Created attachment 19097 [details]
intel 2.4.2 Xorg.0.log
Comment 9 Wang Zhenyu 2008-09-22 22:33:31 UTC
Could you apply this patch http://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=18969 and try again?
Comment 10 Frank Thieme 2008-09-25 07:35:07 UTC
Yeah, tried right now, but didn't change anything. 

Maybe I should go back to i810 driver and try to solve the issues there, at least until TV out is officially supported.
Comment 11 Michael Fu 2008-10-13 06:15:09 UTC
frank, what output does your machine have? searching the internet shows that it has more outputs than you described. can you confirm?(In reply to comment #10)
> Yeah, tried right now, but didn't change anything. 
> 
> Maybe I should go back to i810 driver and try to solve the issues there, at
> least until TV out is officially supported.
> 

Frank, please attach the xorg log with zhenyu's patch applied anyway. thanks.
Comment 12 Michael Fu 2008-10-13 06:21:17 UTC
(In reply to comment #6)
> "VGA-2" normally means SDVO-VGA, that's VGA port on SDVO card.
> 
> yeah, this is another SDVO TV support issue. Frank, which output do you see
> this issue? scart or svideo? Does other outputs VGA/DVI work?
> 
> For SDVO TV support, you'd better to try 2.4.2 driver or latest git master,
> which does have some support for it. 2.3.2 is not expected to work well with
> this.
> 

zhenyu, I don't see TV here, if the SDVO card is taken as a combo of DVI and VGA..
Comment 13 Frank Thieme 2008-10-13 07:52:46 UTC
(In reply to comment #11)
> frank, what output does your machine have? searching the internet shows that it
> has more outputs than you described. can you confirm?(In reply to comment #10)

This machine has a covered VGA output on board output - labeled Do not remove -, an DVI-D output on SDVO card an an SCART Output, which is plugged in the SDVO card.

> > Yeah, tried right now, but didn't change anything. 
> > 
> > Maybe I should go back to i810 driver and try to solve the issues there, at
> > least until TV out is officially supported.
> > 
> 
> Frank, please attach the xorg log with zhenyu's patch applied anyway. thanks.

I cannot because at the moment I use the i810 driver. But it did only differ in the addresses of the crash.

> zhenyu, I don't see TV here, if the SDVO card is taken as a combo of DVI and
VGA..

As you see in the i810 Xorg.0.log the second VGA is really the TV Out via SCART

Comment 14 Michael Fu 2008-11-26 04:48:24 UTC
Frank, zhenyu asked you in comment# 6 if VGA or DVI work? would you please answer that.

you said the VGA connector is covered by a label. Do you mean you can't connect a VGA monitor to it?

Also, please add option "ModeDebug" "yes" to driver section in conf file and attach the new xorg.log.

thanks.
Comment 15 Frank Thieme 2008-11-26 09:46:13 UTC
(In reply to comment #14)
> Frank, zhenyu asked you in comment# 6 if VGA or DVI work? would you please
> answer that.

Sure: When I plug a monitor on vga, it works. I don't have an DVI Device, so I cannot make sure it is working as well.

> you said the VGA connector is covered by a label. Do you mean you can't connect
> a VGA monitor to it?

You can, when you take a screwdriver and remove the "do not remove" cover... ;)

> Also, please add option "ModeDebug" "yes" to driver section in conf file and
> attach the new xorg.log.

As I already said, I have not installed the intel driver anymore as I need a system that just works. But I can try with a live CD in the next days and I can post that xorg.log...

cheers
Comment 16 Michael Fu 2008-12-03 21:38:21 UTC
(In reply to comment #15)
> (In reply to comment #14)
> > Frank, zhenyu asked you in comment# 6 if VGA or DVI work? would you please
> > answer that.
> 
> Sure: When I plug a monitor on vga, it works. I don't have an DVI Device, so I
> cannot make sure it is working as well.
> 
> > you said the VGA connector is covered by a label. Do you mean you can't connect
> > a VGA monitor to it?
> 
> You can, when you take a screwdriver and remove the "do not remove" cover... ;)
Interesting.. anyway, it works. let's forget it ...

> 
> > Also, please add option "ModeDebug" "yes" to driver section in conf file and
> > attach the new xorg.log.
> 
> As I already said, I have not installed the intel driver anymore as I need a
> system that just works. But I can try with a live CD in the next days and I can
> post that xorg.log...
> 
> cheers
> 
Got any chance to collect a log with ModeDebug turns on?
Comment 17 Michael Fu 2008-12-10 21:42:32 UTC
ping frank...
Comment 18 Frank Thieme 2009-01-18 11:55:16 UTC
Created attachment 22087 [details]
intel 2.6.0 Xorg.0.log
Comment 19 Frank Thieme 2009-01-18 11:58:46 UTC
Had time to install debian sid in a chroot environment on the same machine. I installed xserver-xorg-video-intel from experimental and tried it.

As I read the log right it doesn't even detect the SCART out anymore.

HTH
Comment 20 Michael Fu 2009-01-31 23:47:40 UTC
SDVOC is not detected on an ADD2 card...we need to fix this first, then check how to enable the SDVO-TV...re-assign to ma ling
Comment 21 MaLing 2009-02-01 22:33:02 UTC
hi Frank 

I think your SCART connector is plugged into SDVOC,because log says sdvob doesn't attached display(If I was wrong, please correct me).
And your chipset is i915, SDVOC is not reserved on that platform.
Could you try adding option ForceSDVODetect true in device section of
xorg.conf, then paste corresponding Xorg log file with Modedebug option.

Thanks
Ma Ling

Comment 22 Frank Thieme 2009-02-02 10:27:16 UTC
Created attachment 22492 [details]
log with ForceSDVODetect

Ok, here it comes. Seems like it detects some TV out now... but still no viewable picture...
Comment 23 Michael Fu 2009-02-02 17:22:28 UTC
Good, we may need a patch to fix it..

To get a viewable display on your TV,  Let's wait for zhenyu's patch of SDVO TV enabling...
Comment 24 MaLing 2009-02-13 22:41:10 UTC
Created attachment 22931 [details] [review]
please try the patch on your machine, thanks.

hi Frank,

This patch is our latest patch which intends to detect SDVO device precisly.
Because we have not similar HW, would you please try it on your machine under the same environment with that of this bug #17698, then paset Xorg log file?

Thanks a lot!
Ma Ling
Comment 25 Frank Thieme 2009-04-19 07:35:23 UTC
Sorry, had no time for doing this. Just wanted to say, that I switched to archlinux this week because I read about the intel-legacy drive there.

Surprisingly the newest intel driver from the AUR works after I pathed PAL-G in like mentiones in bug 17776.

I will supply an xorg.log as soon as I can...

keep up the good work...
Comment 26 Frank Thieme 2009-04-27 06:43:15 UTC
Created attachment 25186 [details]
intel 2.7.0 Xorg.0.log
Comment 27 MaLing 2009-05-10 01:11:12 UTC
ok, Thanks for Zhenyus 's great sdvo-TV work, I will close the issue.

Thanks
Ma Ling


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