Bug 5435

Summary:	Suggestion for an alternative phonetic cyrillic layout.
Product:	xkeyboard-config	Reporter:	Ilguiz Latypov <ilatypov>
Component:	General	Assignee:	xkb
Status:	RESOLVED INVALID	QA Contact:
Severity:	enhancement
Priority:	high	Keywords:	l10n, patch
Version:	unspecified
Hardware:	x86 (IA32)
OS:	Linux (All)
Whiteboard:
i915 platform:		i915 features:
Bug Depends on:	110105
Bug Blocks:
Attachments:	add another phonetic variant of the russian keyboard (phonetic2) the minimal change to the existing variant "phonetic" of the Russian keyboard layout

Description Ilguiz Latypov 2005-12-28 14:14:57 UTC

Hello,

I wanted to move the lower case hard sign of the phonetic cyrillic layout away
from the often used underscore character.

I also found that the capital hard sign was missing.

So instead of the upper row of

Ю!@ёЁ%^&*()ъЧ
ю1234567890-ч

I came up with

Ч!@ъЪёЁ&*()_Ю
ч1234567890-ю

My swapping of CHE and YU was an attempt to tie the alphabetically close letters
together (Ю close to Э).

I changed the location of ё and Ё because I assumed that the hard sign was to
occur more frequently than YO.

I will be attaching the diff file shortly.  Regards,

-- 
Ilguiz

Comment 1 Ilguiz Latypov 2005-12-28 14:17:03 UTC

Created attachment 4177 [details] [review]
add another phonetic variant of the russian keyboard (phonetic2)

Comment 2 Sergey V. Udaltsov 2005-12-30 05:44:24 UTC

Ilguiz, two things:
1. What is the "phonetic" layout in Windows? Is it like yours - or like existing
one?
2. Would it be possible to define "phonetic2" as "phonetic" + "smth" - i.e. use
"include" statement

Comment 3 Ilguiz Latypov 2006-01-03 05:16:12 UTC

(In reply to comment #2)
> 1. What is the "phonetic" layout in Windows? Is it like yours - or like existing
> one?

Unfortunately, Microsoft doesn't seem to provide a phonetic Cyrillic layout,
according to its web site,

  http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/keyboards.mspx

There isn't a grass-root standard either.  The list of various layouts at
http://klava.ruswin.net/ doesn't refer to any phonetic layout as preferred or
"official".

> 2. Would it be possible to define "phonetic2" as "phonetic" + "smth" - i.e. use
> "include" statement

I figured most of my changes weren't justified enough.  So I am suggesting to
only take the lower case hard sign off the underscore and include the upper case
hard sign.  The existing variant "phonetic" could be changed because the
modification is affecting only one original placement.  A patch is attached.

It would be nice to move che/CHE away from the plus/equals button.  E.g., these
letters could reside on top of 7 and 8.

Comment 4 Ilguiz Latypov 2006-01-03 05:17:09 UTC

Created attachment 4220 [details] [review]
the minimal change to the existing variant "phonetic" of the Russian keyboard layout

Comment 5 Sergey V. Udaltsov 2006-01-04 12:09:44 UTC

Well, syntactically this patch is ok. Are you sure people using ru(phonetic)
would be happy to lose the percent sign (I don't care too much about
asciicircum)? Also, actually, http://klava.ruswin.net/ gives keys 6 and 7 for
the hardsign, not 5 and 6 - are your sure your patch is right?

Comment 6 Benjamin Close 2008-01-11 02:37:40 UTC

Bugzilla Upgrade Mass Bug Change

NEEDSINFO state was removed in Bugzilla 3.x, reopening any bugs previously listed as NEEDSINFO.

  - benjsc
    fd.o Wrangler

Comment 7 Sergey V. Udaltsov 2008-11-29 11:31:41 UTC

No reply for 3 yrs

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